
Animation continues to become more and more of a global business, not just in finding an international audience but also behind the scenes. Production companies from various companies team up to launch new shows more often, or so it seems. People wanting to work in animation must also be flexible and go where the jobs are, though this may not necessarily mean leaving their home country. One such case in point is animation writers.
To illustrate the challenges of working on a global scale, I called upon the expertise of Larry DiTillio. Larry’s extensive credits include work as a writer on HE-MAN (both the original and 21st century incarnations), developer and story editor of HE-MAN’s companion series SHE-RA: PRINCESS OF POWER, but specifically for this interview we focused on his multi-year experience as Co-Story Editor for TRANSFORMERS: BEAST WARS, for which the animation was produced by Mainframe Productions in Canada while he lived in the United States. I started out asking how Larry, as a United States writer, got work on a Canadian-produced show.
“Chris Brough, one of the heads of Mainframe called my agent and asked if Bob Forward and I would develop and story edit the BEAST WARS show,” he explained. “For those who don’t know it, BEAST WARS was a revival of the TRANSFORMERS series based on the Hasbro toy line. Bob and I had worked together at Filmation when I first broke into the animation business there and we both had the same agent at the time.” He pointed out that “[f]rankly, neither one of us was too eager to do the show since neither of us were great TRANSFORMERS fans,” then added, “[b]ut we agreed to meet with Chris since we both have a policy of not turning our nose up at anything until we learn more about it. We discovered we really liked Chris and we became excited over the prospect of creating a CGI show, a type of animation that was not as prevalent at the time. The truly awesome salary he was offering us further helped this, much more than either of us had ever made story-editing animation shows. So we signed on and wound up doing 3 seasons of BEAST WARS, a hit almost from its very first showing.”
This first question caused me to wonder if this would be a typical route for a writer in one country to get hired on a show made elsewhere. I asked Larry for his take, to which he replied: “The answer to that is yes and no. It is a typical route for writers like Bob and myself who have lots of credits and lots of story-editing experience. In fact when we asked why Chris wanted us for the series he replied that Mainframe had done another CGI show that looked great but was weak on story. Since we had a reputation for good storytelling he was eager to have us.” Larry clarified that he and Bob did not function as a writing team; they developed the show together but wrote and edited scripts separately. Returning to summarize the question, he felt that how he and Bob got the BEAST WARS job is “a typical route for an experienced writer, but not for a novice.”
As to other avenues for writers or story editors to get hooked up to foreign shows, Larry began by saying, “Well to reiterate, the best avenue is experience. Foreign producers are not looking to America for budding talents; they have plenty of those in their own countries. What they are looking for are writers who know a lot about their craft and about the American entertainment industry, usually with an eye to expanding their market to America. This is what got me a job working for Gaumont in France, a year or so after BEAST WARS was done. They hired me not only for my credentials as a writer but for my viewpoint on how a show produced in France with French sensibilities would work in America. This job also came to me through my agent who had worked with the producer before.
“As for other avenues, my best advice is to find foreign companies with offices in America and try to get meetings with them. I have a friend who works in the comic book field and on a recent trip to Los Angeles he met with several foreign producers working in that area. The same can be done in media, many foreign companies have offices (usually in L.A. or New York) and these companies are often more amenable to meeting with writers than the corporate giants running the American industry. Some research is required to find these companies and you can start with the trade papers, VARIETY and the HOLLYWOOD REPORTER. They run lists each week of what is being produced where in both film and television, often with contact numbers. You can then call and inquire as to what these companies might be looking for. If you do not have a lot of credits in the business then you must have some really good samples of your work and by samples I do NOT mean prose, poetry, plays etc. If you want to work in film or television, then have a full script to show. Be honest (i.e. don’t pad your resume with fictional jobs or jobs that have no relation to the industry) and be practical. A foreign producer who has a history of producing period dramas is not going to be impressed by a horror movie and vice versa. Study the company and get as much info as you can on them. I did this when Mainframe asked me to work for them, as I did when Gaumont made their offer.”
“Well I really don’t consider Canada a ‘foreign’ country,” Larry replied when I asked if it was challenging to work with producers in another country. “They speak the same language we do, share most of our values and interests and aren’t all that different from industry folks in the United States. France on the other hand was a constant challenge, not only because of language differences but also because of vast differences in how they approach the work process.”
Larry told me that travel was “absolutely” required and typical when he worked on BEAST WARS. “Bob and I would travel to Vancouver a few times each year for meetings and to acquaint ourselves with the technology used in the show and the numerous people who contributed to it. And yes it is absolutely typical. It is impossible to story-edit a show well without such visits. I also went to Paris when I was working with Gaumont and had that show gone ahead I would have been over there at least 3 times a year. In the same manner both the Canadian and French producers often came to the United States to meet with me.” As to whether or not any of the other United States writers they worked with had to make travel commitments, “Nope. It is definitely not typical for a freelance writer to journey to another country. First of all it’s not necessary, the story-editor handles all the interaction between the writer of an episode and the production staff. Second of all it’s not cheap to ferry a writer to another country and since foreign companies often work with much smaller budgets they are not going to squander money on someone who’s writing a single episode or two. “
When I asked him if he specifically enjoyed anything about the international interaction, Larry replied, “Absolutely. First there is the invaluable experience of visiting other countries, visits that might not otherwise be possible for a struggling writer. Secondly there is the benefit of working with people who think outside the ‘Hollywood’ box and thus are often more open to new and fresh ideas. Many of the things we did on BEAST WARS would simply not have been possible had we been working in the States. Third, there is the opportunity to pick up smatterings of new languages (e.g. my rather child-like high school French got considerably better after a week in Paris) and be exposed to the cultures and mores of other nations thus moving beyond the stereotypes we Americans often hold about foreign countries. And last, but certainly not least, foreign companies often have much more respect for writers, something most of us are not used to in the American industry. I was treated royally in both Canada and France and have many fond memories of both.”
Given his long career history, I asked Larry if he felt that the advent of technology such as email makes it easier to work with writers and producers across the globe. “Only a moron could answer this question no!” came the response. “As an older writer, I remember working on a typewriter and being forced to actually drive to a studio to deliver a script (at the cost of several hours of the working day). Now I can deliver the script by e-mail or fax the minute I finish it. Likewise I need not trek across the landscape to have story meetings or get notes as I once used to. And obviously, I could never have been hired to work on shows overseas without this capability. Add scriptwriting programs that take all the formatting drudgery out of writing and the power of the Internet for research and communications and you realize we are living in a wondrous era for writers.”
Earlier on, Larry mentioned that production companies from other countries tended to seek out experienced writers. Still, I wanted his opinion on whether or not a writer just starting out should concentrate on finding work in their home country or not be afraid to seek out global opportunities. “Honestly I would have to say stick to your own country because as I already mentioned most foreign companies are looking for experienced writers, not people looking to break in. At the same time I think new writers should certainly be open to all opportunities and given the increasingly incestuous nature of the American industry, it might actually be easier to hook up with a foreign company.”
I closed asking Larry if he had any other pearls of wisdom to share. “After 30 years in this crazed business I am just beginning to get a little wisdom but I am not certain it is of the pearl variety. Nevertheless I’ll make three comments and then spare you any further rambling. The first ‘faux pearl’ is: Resist the temptation to follow trends in the entertainment industry. It might make some commercial sense to write what the industry ‘seems’ to be buying but you’ll get a lot further by writing what YOU want to see, rather than what you think some executive might buy. The very best writers in our business got there by following their own passions and enthusiasms not by endlessly copying others. Second: It takes four things to be a writer – talent, desire, persistence and luck and of those four, it’s the last two that will probably have the most impact on your career. Third: Learn to listen. Sounds simple, but it isn’t. Writers are sensitive souls and it is not easy to handle the constant rejection and change required by the scriptwriting profession. To do so you have to learn to collaborate and it will be much easier if you practice what Buddhist philosophy calls compassionate or deep listening. This means when another person talks give them your full and undivided attention. Do not muddy your thoughts with what you are going to say in response but really take in what the other person is telling you and respond only when you’ve got it all. That’s it. Aloha!”
Aloha to you too, Larry.
(originally released at Digital Media FX)